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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2009 20:28:53 GMT -5
I went to a site that has some AC so I don't know if I should say it out loud on here, but anyhow I found some really pretty swirly brushes and I found cool things.
So I got them all installed, and I am sort of experimenting. How do I use these bad boys?
Also, some of the brushes that I got seem misty/ I know to get them darker I should push my mouse button some more times right?
What else do I need to know about them?
I have always been afraid of brushes, but I think they might be all right?
Anyplace safe I can find silhouetted peeps? I got an idea.
Do we have brushes?
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Post by ReeRee on Feb 18, 2009 20:49:37 GMT -5
Grassy, one thing I learned about brushes is that some of the more elaborate ones are no no's because they are made from someone's art. Anyone can make a brush in psp, it isn't hard at all. And, there are unscrupulous people who will create a brush from someone else's artwork and then claim it as theirs. Big copyright no no.
I was fascinated with brushes for awhile last summer but once I found out that most of the really cool ones are not safe to use, I stuck to just the basic ones likes shapes (hearts, flowers, hairballs, etc.). I had others installed and deleted them because I couldn't be sure they were safe.
Good luck with them, though. Oh, and I don't think AL has any brushes for grabs (like tubes). Kick me if I'm wrong, because I'm still learning about the forum and there could be some somewhere I just haven't found them - lol.
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Post by Flagryl on Feb 18, 2009 20:55:36 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2009 21:04:42 GMT -5
Thanks you guys.
And Flagryl, guess what? Those sirly ones I got are yours. Yay huh? IMy first brushes are from you! Isn't that great?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2009 21:05:08 GMT -5
Ree, I am very interested in the hairballs LMAO! You are a delight girl.
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Post by ReeRee on Feb 18, 2009 21:14:29 GMT -5
LOL!! They're Neo's!!!! She gave them to me - ha ha ha!! Back in the group, we could attach a file to the post. I wonder what all those little icons are up where the font selections are. I'm going to try to post the file for you if I can figure it out. Oh for heaven's sake! You can insert an entire email or even a youtube video but you can't insert a link to a file. Hmmm. there's an insert image icon though. Wonder what that's about. not about much - lol  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2009 21:24:43 GMT -5
Hey, I just downloaded a whole herd of Photoshop filters and none of them work. Huh? So it's not like filters where it all works? Bum City! I want some black silhouettes of ladies for my idea. I will keep looking.
Yes, my search skills are still atrocious Ree.
How do we rotate a brush or do we do it on a separate thing and then copy/paste in in after we rotate it?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2009 21:52:00 GMT -5
OK so I know my search skills are bad, but I distinctly keyed in PSP Silhouetee brushes and all I got was Photoshop brushes. Why would it give me that when I didn't even ask for it.
I had my virus thingy go off again, and of course it's not this little oh honey you have a virus, it's this massive bellowing siren, so Lamb came in wondering what I was doing.
So Can I just take a tube and color it black to make a silhouette for my idea or is that bad form since a tuber worked very hard to make it colored for me and all?
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Post by guineasgalore on Feb 18, 2009 22:19:46 GMT -5
I don't think the artist would appreciate that Grassy but if you google free fonts and go to dafont.com they have dingbats that include silhouette figures.
I found some under their Various dingbat category.
Hugs Sal
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2009 22:39:51 GMT -5
Thanks so much Sal! It's getting to be a drag searching for stuff or maybe I am just lazy, and I know I am hindered by being completely computer illiterate LOL. Thanks for the help. I got gobs of brushes. Mostly lines. But I got cat faces too. The cat faces need a credit right? The lady said they were linkware, so do I put her URL on the tag like cat brush provided by MsX www.msx'sgoodies .com or whatever? |
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Post by Huronna on Feb 18, 2009 23:56:57 GMT -5
It depends on what you do with them. If you use on and it's the main focus of your tag you can put some like I did on this one  Brushes are sometimes made to be hazy or low in opacity. They basically are used as embellishments, something to pretty up an blah background. |
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Post by susy on Feb 19, 2009 9:13:03 GMT -5
I'm going to take a shot in the dark here and say that I've used brushes for a long time, not really often, but, I have seldom seen anyone give credit for them.
How often have you ever seen the credit on a tag say "brushes by BlaBla"?
I know I shouldn't be saying this but it's true.
I've gone to the biggest, bestest(LOL) groups online and never seen any credits for them, but, I do believe that the fancier ones should be credited but to who, what, or where?
I have no idea because a lot (not all) of the brushes that are made are made from someone else's artwork, so, how do you know whose belongs to who, except for those who say in their TOU that the brushes were made by them from scratch.
There are a lot of what I call "rumor" rules that float around the net about graphics, and I fully understand © and everything, but they are always stated that they "should" be done this way and they "should" be done that way, but where are these actual rules?
I know this is like beating a dead horse, but, when I can't sleep my brain goes into overdrive and I think of these things.
Who actually made the rules that brushes, fonts, dings, and masks have to be creditied?
I'm not questioning anyone here. I'm just questioning the all-around rules?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2009 10:08:18 GMT -5
Thanks everyone!
I can't speak for brushes Susy, but I do know that in literature if you quote someone and you use more than five words of the quote, you must cite the source. If you use fewer than five words, you do not have to cite the source. That is a hard fast rule laid out by the Modern Language Association. So if I say Jesus wept, I do not have to say it's from the Bible, but if I say Gather ye rosebuds while ye may, I have to credit Robert Herrick.
I wonder if it's the same for brushes? I mean if you use a small brush in the background, wouldn't it make sense that it would not get as much citation as a gigantic rose tube? But if I used a larger brush, wouldn't it just be a good thing to give it some sort of credit since it's more noticeable?
Did I say that right? It seems so understandable in my head, but once I try to explain it and pull it out of my head, words get in my way.
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Post by ReeRee on Feb 19, 2009 10:12:59 GMT -5
Words get in the way of an English major - lol!! Toooooo funny!
I think what you are trying to say is the same thing that Huronna was saying. If the brush is used as embellishment, or to liven up a dull background it doesn't have to be credited. But, if it is the main focus or one of the main focuses of the tag then the artist needs the credit for their work.
Capeche? You kill me girl!!
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Post by Betsy (RIP) on Feb 19, 2009 10:22:44 GMT -5
It can be very confusing. I just go with what I know to be the 'right thing to do' and good old fashioned 'gut instinct'.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2009 10:23:24 GMT -5
Yeah. That is what I mean. But it's not because I, Grassy, ordained it to be so.
I guess it's kinda like accents. Accents are not the main focus of a tag, so they don't get as much citation as a tube.
I know Ree! Remember, though, I am a writer. Ordinarily I have editors who make me sound refined and educated. Here, I don't have an editor, so I am my regular dorky self LOL.
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Post by Flagryl on Feb 19, 2009 11:21:41 GMT -5
Susy, from my understaning brushes and masks do not need crediting unless the author specifies same [for original work] or protocol applies if either are original works and the main focus of an image. Courtesy or copyright rule? It used to be that brush and mask makers, even the gran dam Lady Sara, did not specify credits for themselves, even for original work. Then, a whole new generation of artists have started to specify credits in their "Terms" because of all the internet theft and abuse. And, they are mixed with images made from other images by whom we don't know and who knows the origin! But, I totally agree with you because how can you really know, without extensive research, if the mask or the brush is original art or made from someone else's creation. Huronna has stated over and over that if you don't know the origin, don't guess. Don't use it. And for each Huronna on the net, there are scads of people at a myriad of sites who don't draw defined lines in the sand. Fuzzy world we live in, huh? Thanks for bringing this up again because you raise an interesting perspective that plagues us all.
Thank goodness for Safetubes!
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Post by susy on Feb 19, 2009 13:17:40 GMT -5
Can you imagine if we did have to credit everything we use.
Your tag would be.....
©JohnDoe
mask by JaneDoe
brush by BabyDoe
font by SisterDoe
http://wwwdotdoefamilydotcom
I know I'm probably getting ridiculous about this but does anyone have the real answers? LMBO
No, nobody that I know of.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2009 13:36:28 GMT -5
It's been my experience that just when I think I have answers, they go and change all the questions.
But I'm pickin' up what you're layin' down. It's like how come XYZ gets a credit but ABC doesn't type thing? And who decides?
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Post by Flagryl on Feb 19, 2009 21:23:10 GMT -5
LOL LOL LOL Yep. Susy, times are a changin'. No more free lunch! No easy street. It is what it is. All the more reason to create our own stuff rather than borrow, borrow, borrow. Given the current economy, I think the former is better than the latter. Now, that said, I'm not as talented as Neo and Mandy and Carol and Ruth...but I am what I am...no Popeye but I am what I am.
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Post by ruthart on Feb 19, 2009 22:35:50 GMT -5
grassy, I suppose you could make silhouettes from any of the lady tubes you find at PSP Tube Depot, just give credit to the person who made the tube (poser). select, float, add another layer and fill with black....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2009 7:43:12 GMT -5
Thanks so much Ruth!
I suppose that would keep the hooch factor down too because nobody would see any naughty parts.
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Post by Huronna on Feb 20, 2009 8:16:43 GMT -5
An easier way to do it is just go to adjust and change the brightness to -255 Everything goes black. That's how I did my dancers in the moonlight  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2009 8:53:34 GMT -5
Thant's what I wanted to do! I have an ice skater with a little bit of buttcheek hanging out, but I still wanted to use her because of how she skates, but I did not want to be hoochie about it all! That is awesome!
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